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On this episode of Ghost Hunters, TAPS returns to sea for an investigation of the USS Salem.

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I've seen an apparition of a person walk across and down into this space.

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Steve and Tango find something paranormal cooking in the ship's bakery.

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Hear that?

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Don't miss that.

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While Jason and Grant hear echoes of the past.

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Listen.

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It's not my woman.

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But it looked like something moved down there.

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Then the team crosses the border into the unknown at a Canadian jail.

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We're in here, Sal. If you want to come in here.

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Holy f***!

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I'm seriously shaking right now.

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Will a ghostly prisoner trap the group in the great white north?

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The jail cell door is closed by itself.

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The

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USS Salem

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Hey.

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Hey.

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So what do we got?

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We've got the USS Salem in Quincy, Mac.

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Wait, USS Salem sounds like a boat.

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It is. It's considered a heavy cruiser.

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It was built towards the end of World War II in 1945.

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Alright, well what kind of activity are they having?

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The employees will be working alone at night and they'll hear what sounds like hatches opening and closing.

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The sounds of several people walking around and they've heard strange voices.

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They've seen shadow people and they've also seen the apparition of a former employee

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who actually died on the ship ten years ago.

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Sounds good.

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Let Tango, Steve and Amy know and let's do this.

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Sounds awesome, Chris.

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The USS Salem case sounds awesome. I love the battleships.

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The people there are just curious as to who's there and why.

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And that's going to be our main goal while we're there.

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Alright guys, we've got a lot of work to head on this man.

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The ships are always very, very large.

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So, what do you guys think of this?

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I'm ready.

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We've run every cord, every extension cord, every plow, everything.

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Alright, let's do this.

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Wow.

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Definitely looks like you can defend itself.

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But how many guns are on it?

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Let's do this.

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Hey man, welcome aboard.

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Thanks, I'm Jason from TAPS.

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How are you?

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Nice to meet you.

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How's it going?

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Welcome aboard gentlemen.

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Pleasure to have you aboard the USS Salem.

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Thank you, thank you.

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She was actually built here in this very shipyard back between 1945 and 1949 at the end of World War II.

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So she hasn't really fought in any battles, right?

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No, interestingly enough, you're right.

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She served really at the end of World War II and served in the Cold War.

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The idea was to keep the Russians in the Black Sea.

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That's what this ship was really designed to do.

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Well, we hear there's a lot of paranormal activity that goes on here.

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Absolutely right.

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Do you want to give us a tour of the hot spots and tell us what happened?

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Please, yeah.

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So what goes on here?

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This is the anchor windless room.

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It's a machine space.

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It's designed to really just hoist the anchors.

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The anchors weigh about 26,000 pounds a piece.

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There were four of them on the ship.

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So you can imagine the type of engineering to pull it out of the water.

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One of our volunteers, a former volunteer in the ship, his name is John,

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used to work in this space, maintaining it and cleaning it and such.

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And then one day, actually passed away about a dozen years ago here in this space.

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We noticed a few years ago that people were coming down to the guard shack and saying,

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jeez, we met this terrific tour guide named John,

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and he was kind of showing us around a little bit.

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Well, we'd be saying, John, we don't have a tour guide named John,

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and there are no tour guides on the ship.

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But John is really pretty active in this area.

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People physically see him and talk to him at points.

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Are we allowed to get in there?

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Absolutely.

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We can open that up for you.

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Thank you.

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All right.

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We'll go down into one of the hospital spaces.

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Sounds good after you.

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I was outside the wood room in the hallway.

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I was standing towards a group of people.

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One of them turned kind of white, and the other one kind of opened his mouth wide.

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I looked out and asked him what was the matter, and they said, there's a woman down there.

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As I looked down the hall, you could see a woman taking a right.

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She was in white shorts, white shirt, a white handbag, and she just turned and walked.

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So as we went down there and looked, the only thing that was there was a metal wall

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that she could go through.

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We couldn't find her anywhere.

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This is the hospital space.

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This particular space is unique in that there's the stirrups because we deliver babies here.

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And it's interesting because there is an apparition here of a woman who is yelling,

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you know, get out, get out.

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And we're not quite sure if she's saying get out or get it out, meaning deliver the baby.

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So did you see the lady or just hear?

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You can hear her speaking to you, and some people have reported that they have some visuals of her.

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Awesome.

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Is that it in the series?

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That's it in the series right here.

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So what goes on in here, Mike?

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This is the machine shop, and actually this is one of my favorite spots in the ship

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because this is actually an apparition that I've seen.

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If you stand down the hallway with the lights off and as you look down the hall,

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you can actually see the image of a person walk across and down into this space.

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You've witnessed that yourself.

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I've seen that one myself, and it's just, it's really freaky.

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Did it have any facial features or anything when you've seen it?

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I can't really identify the face or anything.

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It's more of like a blur of the shape of a person that moves across.

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In other words, like a shadow figure.

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I've heard when I'm down in my space, the yak kives, I'll hear people walking.

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And it always seems to be right over my head, and they seem to be going forward.

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If I go up in the main deck and I look over, see there's any cars in the parking lot.

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And there's no cars there except my truck.

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I'll walk around looking to see if anybody's on board.

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Nobody.

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All right.

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Oh, what we're going to do from here is go talk to the rest of the crew, start setting up the equipment.

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We got a lot of ground to cover.

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Soup.

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So, thanks, man.

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Thank you very much.

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Appreciate it.

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So Mike just gave us a tour and there's a lot of great claims.

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Everything from shadow type entities that he sees going up and down the hall to voices,

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people saying get out, things of that nature.

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Tilt up, please.

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That's good.

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We're happy to have our good friend Joe Chin with us.

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Anytime Joe can get off the road from GHI and join us, he's always welcome to.

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We're going to do a great job, get all the equipment set up and just try to figure out what's truly going on on the USS Salem.

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Hey guys.

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Great job guys.

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That's not easy, huh?

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So what do we got?

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Well guys, quickly show you the angles and if you like them, we'll stay with them.

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One of them is the first surgery room.

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One of them actually said that they would claim to hear some things, some things moving.

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And maybe even a nurse.

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So if it's there, we'll get it.

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The second camera is, this is the hallway leading to the machine shop.

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So we got to the hallway and then the machine shop, which is camera three.

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The next camera is the hospital.

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This is two of the lanes of beds there.

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We wanted to cover that.

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All right, so let's get digital recorders with each of the cameras.

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Let's go lights out guys.

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Jane Grant down the anchor room reports an apparition of a volunteer named John who died down.

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Come here.

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He's trying to lift that one.

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That's just one anchor chain.

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Oh my gosh.

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Oh yeah, be careful on the floor, man.

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It's all oily, huh?

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So the guy was in here for a couple hours before they even knew he was dead.

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That stuff is tragic to me.

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Have you been trying to help people down here, John?

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Did you die in here?

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Foot steps.

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It's not like a woman.

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It's like a man's something.

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Odd things started happening right away.

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We've got some footsteps, some fake voices.

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Then we explored the rest of the deck.

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What's that?

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They're coming from down there.

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I might have just been that red light, but it looked like something moved down there.

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While we were down the sleeping quarters, I think I saw an object in the room.

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Oh, was I just moved over?

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I think I saw an object in the room.

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I think I saw an object in the room.

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I think I saw an object in the room.

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I don't know.

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I'm hearing that you got a wall.

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There's a footsteps.

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I just heard footsteps here.

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Well, Jane, I saw an object move at the same time.

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Heard some sounds around us.

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What's going on?

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I'm getting a spidey thing all over my face.

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It might be legit.

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I don't know.

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What's that?

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Well, we know we saw a shadow and some other sounds were down there.

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There's footsteps everywhere.

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We've had some strange experiences.

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Some shadows, voices, size, you know, things of that nature.

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But I'm hoping that something came up on some of our equipment.

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Welcome to the operating room.

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Welcome to the operating room.

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People have actually seen an apparition of a woman and heard her yelling,

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get it out, or get out.

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Really?

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Is there anyone here with us?

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We'd like to address the, perhaps the woman that's been seen in here.

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Maybe you might have passed giving birth.

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If you're here, can you let us know?

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We heard you yell at people.

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That you want to get something out, or you want us to get out.

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Is that what you're trying to say?

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That was pretty loud.

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What was that?

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I don't know.

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It sounded like metal, scraping on metal.

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It sounded like a door moving.

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Hmm.

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That was really loud.

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That was in here with us.

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This door, maybe?

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Could it have been a draft?

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I don't know.

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Can you please move that door one more time?

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That way we know you're actually in this room with us, that you're real.

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What was that?

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And that sounded like it came from the other room.

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The other room.

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What is that sound?

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We heard noises, and we really tried to find an explanation for them, and we couldn't.

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So I'm very anxious to see if there's anything captured evidence-wise that correlates with what we experienced.

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What is going on in this place?

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Down here, Dave.

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Watch a step.

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Thank you.

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Hello?

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Anybody here?

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Those are the bakery, Dave.

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They do claim to hear a lot of noises in here, and hear some different things, like as if the bakery is still in action.

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Oh, no.

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Dave, what do you mean, no?

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No.

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What do you mean?

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What do you mean?

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This is chocolate cake at one time.

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Feel it.

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That's like a brick.

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Twenty bucks.

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No.

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Thirty.

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No.

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Thirty-five?

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Four.

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I'm getting sick instantly.

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Oh, it's like a mummy.

261
00:13:07,000 --> 00:13:09,000
It smells like chocolate, which is weird.

262
00:13:09,000 --> 00:13:11,000
It still maintains that scent.

263
00:13:15,000 --> 00:13:20,000
You know, good of us to smell in here when it was fully functioning with all these ovens and everything.

264
00:13:20,000 --> 00:13:21,000
It was awesome.

265
00:13:23,000 --> 00:13:25,000
Can you please make yourself known to us?

266
00:13:26,000 --> 00:13:28,000
Can you show yourself or make a noise?

267
00:13:31,000 --> 00:13:33,000
We just need to know that you're here.

268
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Hear that?

269
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Steve and I were in the bakery, and we're there for a while, and all of a sudden we hear this crazy noise coming from just the ceiling.

270
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What is that?

271
00:14:09,000 --> 00:14:12,000
I think somebody's doing a test, like a debunk test, maybe?

272
00:14:14,000 --> 00:14:15,000
I don't think so.

273
00:14:25,000 --> 00:14:26,000
Hear that?

274
00:14:28,000 --> 00:14:34,000
Steve and I were in the bakery, and all of a sudden we hear this crazy noise coming from just the ceiling.

275
00:14:37,000 --> 00:14:38,000
What the hell is that?

276
00:14:39,000 --> 00:14:43,000
I hope for the vibration.

277
00:14:44,000 --> 00:14:45,000
Hello?

278
00:14:48,000 --> 00:14:50,000
It was funny because Steve was like, what is that?

279
00:14:50,000 --> 00:14:51,000
And all of a sudden it just stopped.

280
00:14:51,000 --> 00:14:52,000
It's coming from right there.

281
00:14:52,000 --> 00:14:54,000
Right there, right there.

282
00:14:55,000 --> 00:14:56,000
I don't think that's a pipe.

283
00:14:56,000 --> 00:14:57,000
No, I don't think that's a pipe.

284
00:14:58,000 --> 00:14:59,000
Somebody's got to be...

285
00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:01,000
Steve too.

286
00:15:01,000 --> 00:15:03,000
Any taps, team members, please?

287
00:15:04,000 --> 00:15:05,000
Go ahead, Steve.

288
00:15:05,000 --> 00:15:09,000
Is anybody doing a lot of banging repeatedly over and over again?

289
00:15:09,000 --> 00:15:12,000
Not that I know. We haven't heard anything.

290
00:15:12,000 --> 00:15:13,000
It's not them.

291
00:15:16,000 --> 00:15:17,000
Can you do that again, please?

292
00:15:18,000 --> 00:15:19,000
If that was you?

293
00:15:22,000 --> 00:15:23,000
That was interesting.

294
00:15:23,000 --> 00:15:25,000
I don't know what to make of those noises.

295
00:15:25,000 --> 00:15:28,000
I didn't really seem like pipe work or anyone, you know, doing that.

296
00:15:28,000 --> 00:15:31,000
But listen back to the tapes and everything, maybe we'll get something.

297
00:15:32,000 --> 00:15:36,000
I have the mini-DV, the MF cage and the walkie, digital recorder.

298
00:15:41,000 --> 00:15:42,000
Hold this right there.

299
00:15:42,000 --> 00:15:46,000
Grant and I were in the barber shop where the claims are similar to the rest of the main deck.

300
00:15:46,000 --> 00:15:49,000
Noises, feelings of dread and uneasiness.

301
00:15:54,000 --> 00:15:55,000
Flush tips.

302
00:15:55,000 --> 00:15:56,000
Flush tips.

303
00:16:00,000 --> 00:16:01,000
I think it's getting closer.

304
00:16:01,000 --> 00:16:02,000
Just leave that for a second.

305
00:16:17,000 --> 00:16:20,000
It's not like it was coming from the back corner of that room, the barber shop.

306
00:16:26,000 --> 00:16:27,000
Hello?

307
00:16:51,000 --> 00:16:52,000
That's gotta be the gate.

308
00:16:52,000 --> 00:16:54,000
Yeah, problem.

309
00:16:55,000 --> 00:16:59,000
We tried to figure out a few of the sounds as far as the gang plank moving.

310
00:16:59,000 --> 00:17:01,000
Okay, here comes someone coming up the gang plank.

311
00:17:09,000 --> 00:17:10,000
Okay, there they are.

312
00:17:13,000 --> 00:17:17,000
We were waiting for someone to walk up the gang plank so we could compare that to the footsteps we heard.

313
00:17:17,000 --> 00:17:19,000
And it turns out they're completely different.

314
00:17:19,000 --> 00:17:23,000
So once we figured that out, we decided we'd head out to another area.

315
00:17:25,000 --> 00:17:29,000
Chris and I were investigating the sheet metal shop.

316
00:17:29,000 --> 00:17:37,000
They reported activities of an apparition coming from the machine shop upstairs down to the sheet metal shop downstairs.

317
00:17:37,000 --> 00:17:39,000
This is a very big space.

318
00:17:39,000 --> 00:17:41,000
I feel really grand.

319
00:17:41,000 --> 00:17:43,000
It's small down here.

320
00:17:43,000 --> 00:17:44,000
I don't like it.

321
00:17:44,000 --> 00:17:45,000
Kind of creepy.

322
00:17:45,000 --> 00:17:47,000
There's anybody here.

323
00:17:47,000 --> 00:17:49,000
We have this object, the red light on it.

324
00:17:49,000 --> 00:17:51,000
It just helps us hear you.

325
00:17:51,000 --> 00:17:53,000
So please don't be afraid of it.

326
00:17:53,000 --> 00:17:56,000
Can you please tell Joe and I your name?

327
00:18:00,000 --> 00:18:06,000
Are you the one that's been seen coming to and fro up and down these stairs?

328
00:18:08,000 --> 00:18:11,000
Are you still performing your duties?

329
00:18:15,000 --> 00:18:18,000
People have told us they've heard things moving down here.

330
00:18:19,000 --> 00:18:23,000
There's plenty of things around us that could be moved.

331
00:18:23,000 --> 00:18:28,000
We ask you to pick something and push it or throw it.

332
00:18:30,000 --> 00:18:32,000
Do you push one of us?

333
00:18:37,000 --> 00:18:45,000
Seriously, I've been in a lot of like creepy spaces, but I would not want to be in here by myself.

334
00:18:48,000 --> 00:18:50,000
It definitely has that creepy feel.

335
00:18:50,000 --> 00:18:55,000
Joe and I were investigating the sheet metal room and we were down here for a while.

336
00:18:55,000 --> 00:18:57,000
We did a lot of EVP work.

337
00:18:57,000 --> 00:18:59,000
This room, it does freak me out.

338
00:18:59,000 --> 00:19:00,000
You're underwater.

339
00:19:00,000 --> 00:19:01,000
It's freezing.

340
00:19:01,000 --> 00:19:02,000
It's damp down here.

341
00:19:02,000 --> 00:19:03,000
It's cramped.

342
00:19:03,000 --> 00:19:07,000
So this isn't a place I'd want to hang out in naturally for very long.

343
00:19:07,000 --> 00:19:14,000
So I'm just wondering if maybe the surroundings are kind of getting to people down here rather than actual paranormal reports.

344
00:19:14,000 --> 00:19:15,000
Go back up.

345
00:19:15,000 --> 00:19:16,000
Sure.

346
00:19:16,000 --> 00:19:21,000
Steve, Tango, Chris, Amy, Joe, let's get the lights on. We're going to wrap.

347
00:19:24,000 --> 00:19:27,000
I think the nice investigation in the USS Salem went great.

348
00:19:27,000 --> 00:19:33,000
I think we've got a lot of evidence to go over over the next few days and we really need to see what turns up.

349
00:19:33,000 --> 00:19:36,000
Joe Chin being here has been nothing but a blast for us.

350
00:19:36,000 --> 00:19:40,000
Any time we can have him out here with us, it really helps the team.

351
00:19:47,000 --> 00:19:51,000
Tango and I are getting ready to review the evidence for the USS Salem.

352
00:19:51,000 --> 00:19:55,000
It was a big ship so we ran a lot of equipment but we're going to go through everything.

353
00:19:55,000 --> 00:19:59,000
All the mini DVs, all the thermals, DVR of course, all of the audio.

354
00:19:59,000 --> 00:20:06,000
And we did have some personal experiences so we're hopeful that some things will come out in the evidence and we'll have something to bring to Jason and Grant.

355
00:20:12,000 --> 00:20:13,000
Hey Tango.

356
00:20:14,000 --> 00:20:16,000
Would you mind taking a look at this for me?

357
00:20:16,000 --> 00:20:19,000
I mean that takes a real sharp turn left.

358
00:20:19,000 --> 00:20:22,000
Yeah. That's the camera I turned.

359
00:20:22,000 --> 00:20:26,000
Right. I don't know if maybe that could be somebody walking by. See that?

360
00:20:26,000 --> 00:20:28,000
Yeah, that looks like it.

361
00:20:28,000 --> 00:20:29,000
Maybe that's somebody there.

362
00:20:29,000 --> 00:20:33,000
And maybe they stepped on the cord or something and the cord just got the camera moving a little bit.

363
00:20:33,000 --> 00:20:34,000
Was it fixed?

364
00:20:34,000 --> 00:20:35,000
No.

365
00:20:35,000 --> 00:20:36,000
Oh wow.

366
00:20:36,000 --> 00:20:40,000
Maybe somebody that was with us had given a little kick.

367
00:20:40,000 --> 00:20:41,000
Makes sense.

368
00:20:41,000 --> 00:20:43,000
Alright. Thanks Dave.

369
00:20:43,000 --> 00:20:44,000
No problem.

370
00:20:51,000 --> 00:20:52,000
Hey Tango.

371
00:20:53,000 --> 00:20:55,000
Take a listen to this if you don't mind.

372
00:20:55,000 --> 00:21:04,000
Jason and Grant, they're investigating and you can hear a voice or a noise or something come behind them and they don't acknowledge it.

373
00:21:05,000 --> 00:21:08,000
Can't be helped if we wish that it comes and it goes.

374
00:21:09,000 --> 00:21:10,000
Whoa.

375
00:21:18,000 --> 00:21:19,000
Hey Mike, it's good to see you again Matt.

376
00:21:19,000 --> 00:21:20,000
Thank you. Thank you very much.

377
00:21:20,000 --> 00:21:21,000
How you been? Okay.

378
00:21:21,000 --> 00:21:24,000
Oh, just I'm excited. I'm pumped. I can't wait to hear what you guys have to say.

379
00:21:24,000 --> 00:21:32,000
Well you know what we did. We came in, you gave us a tour, showed us the hotspots, told us about the activity and those locations and then we locked down the ship and we started our investigation.

380
00:21:32,000 --> 00:21:40,000
We've got a device called a K2 that picks up magnetic fields and that thing was just pegged most of the time all at head level.

381
00:21:40,000 --> 00:21:42,000
When we put it down it would stop.

382
00:21:42,000 --> 00:21:49,000
What this means is that there's high electromagnetic fields and that can have adverse effects on the body.

383
00:21:49,000 --> 00:22:01,000
As people are walking through the ship or if you're on the ship for a while it'll give you the effect of maybe some paranoia or make you feel maybe nauseous or just uncomfortable, creeped out.

384
00:22:01,000 --> 00:22:02,000
Things like that.

385
00:22:02,000 --> 00:22:07,000
Now throughout the night was rather interesting. We did have some personal experiences.

386
00:22:07,000 --> 00:22:15,000
At one point Grant and I were sitting in the barber room and you could hear what sounded like footsteps like somebody coming right to the room.

387
00:22:15,000 --> 00:22:18,000
It sounded like it was above us and we'd get further away.

388
00:22:18,000 --> 00:22:20,000
That sounded like they were coming down the stairs towards us.

389
00:22:20,000 --> 00:22:21,000
Yeah, very well.

390
00:22:21,000 --> 00:22:22,000
But there was nothing there.

391
00:22:22,000 --> 00:22:30,000
And then we went down into sleeping quarter areas and Jay and I both at one point saw a figure move and we were like,

392
00:22:30,000 --> 00:22:32,000
what's the figure move into another room?

393
00:22:32,000 --> 00:22:38,000
Yeah, it was black and solid, a very shadowy type thing and it looked like it took off one around a corner.

394
00:22:38,000 --> 00:22:41,000
We quickly headed over there. There was absolutely nothing there.

395
00:22:41,000 --> 00:22:47,000
So similar to the shadow figure that I saw going from the machine shop into the sheet metal shop.

396
00:22:47,000 --> 00:22:53,000
Yeah, this was definitely a solid black shadowy type figure and it moved rather quickly.

397
00:22:53,000 --> 00:23:01,000
Well, there's a piece of evidence that we want to show you that our team collected and throughout the night on the ship we heard banging and things like that.

398
00:23:01,000 --> 00:23:04,000
But a lot of it we figured was due to the gangplank just kind of moving on the ship.

399
00:23:04,000 --> 00:23:13,000
Well, two of our investigators, Dave, Tango and Steve, were in the bakery area and all of a sudden they started hearing the sound.

400
00:23:13,000 --> 00:23:14,000
We just want to play it for you.

401
00:23:14,000 --> 00:23:15,000
You take.

402
00:23:18,000 --> 00:23:20,000
Please, I want to do a test.

403
00:23:20,000 --> 00:23:22,000
We're going to do a boat test today.

404
00:23:23,000 --> 00:23:24,000
Very steady.

405
00:23:29,000 --> 00:23:35,000
Now, Mike, you spent a lot of time on the ship. You're the one person here that can tell us what that sound is.

406
00:23:35,000 --> 00:23:38,000
I have no idea what that sound is because of the pattern of it.

407
00:23:38,000 --> 00:23:42,000
There's really no sound that the ship would make that would have that sort of a rhythmic pattern to it.

408
00:23:42,000 --> 00:23:47,000
The thing that's kind of freakiest is that the minute that he says, hey, stop, it stopped.

409
00:23:49,000 --> 00:23:50,000
It does.

410
00:23:50,000 --> 00:23:52,000
You know, if the trustee was the gangway, it won't listen to him.

411
00:23:52,000 --> 00:23:53,000
No.

412
00:23:53,000 --> 00:23:54,000
It's interesting.

413
00:23:54,000 --> 00:23:56,000
Wow.

414
00:23:56,000 --> 00:23:59,000
Now throughout the night, we had Amy and Joe investigating.

415
00:23:59,000 --> 00:24:01,000
They headed down to the operation room.

416
00:24:01,000 --> 00:24:07,000
Well, while they were down there investigating, they heard what they believed to be a door shutting.

417
00:24:07,000 --> 00:24:09,000
We just want to play it for you and get you to take.

418
00:24:17,000 --> 00:24:21,000
The hatch noises that I hear are longer, but that definitely sounds to me like a real man.

419
00:24:21,000 --> 00:24:25,000
That definitely sounds to me like the chairs because our chairs are metal chairs on metal floors.

420
00:24:25,000 --> 00:24:31,000
After this, we have one where Jane are investigating and at one point you hear once again a voice.

421
00:24:31,000 --> 00:24:33,000
So subtle, but you hear it.

422
00:24:33,000 --> 00:24:34,000
Cool.

423
00:24:40,000 --> 00:24:41,000
Wow.

424
00:24:41,000 --> 00:24:43,000
I could really hear that.

425
00:24:44,000 --> 00:24:52,000
It seems like something's being said, a couple of words of being said.

426
00:24:52,000 --> 00:24:53,000
It's definitely a voice.

427
00:24:53,000 --> 00:24:54,000
Yeah, over the floor.

428
00:24:54,000 --> 00:24:55,000
What's being said, I don't know.

429
00:24:55,000 --> 00:24:57,000
So what does it come down to?

430
00:24:57,000 --> 00:25:00,000
I mean, we have some bangs that we can't explain.

431
00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:02,000
We have some very, very low, subtle voices.

432
00:25:02,000 --> 00:25:05,000
And, you know, Jane and I saw that figure.

433
00:25:05,000 --> 00:25:06,000
We saw it.

434
00:25:06,000 --> 00:25:08,000
I truly believe that there's something going on here.

435
00:25:08,000 --> 00:25:11,000
I'd just like to come back and ask the guys back anytime.

436
00:25:11,000 --> 00:25:16,000
As you know, you know, the ship is a friendly place and there's nothing here that's going to harm anyone.

437
00:25:16,000 --> 00:25:17,000
Thank you very, very much.

438
00:25:17,000 --> 00:25:18,000
You guys are great.

439
00:25:18,000 --> 00:25:19,000
I really enjoyed it.

440
00:25:19,000 --> 00:25:20,000
We had a fun time.

441
00:25:20,000 --> 00:25:21,000
Yeah, thank you.

442
00:25:21,000 --> 00:25:22,000
After you.

443
00:25:22,000 --> 00:25:28,000
It was really surprising, some of the stuff they found, especially in the barber shop and down in some of the birthing compartments and such.

444
00:25:28,000 --> 00:25:33,000
What I normally hear is just the opening and closing of doors and people walking around and that type of thing.

445
00:25:33,000 --> 00:25:36,000
So this added a whole extra element that we hadn't really heard before.

446
00:25:36,000 --> 00:25:42,000
I gotta say, man, that was a good reveal to see him sort of startled by some of the stuff we got there.

447
00:25:42,000 --> 00:25:45,000
Yeah, honestly, I thought we were going to show him that video with Steve and Tango and that banging.

448
00:25:45,000 --> 00:25:47,000
And he was going to go, oh, you know what that is?

449
00:25:47,000 --> 00:25:48,000
It's this.

450
00:25:48,000 --> 00:25:51,000
It's definitely some strange stuff that we caught there, man.

451
00:25:51,000 --> 00:25:54,000
Yeah, it was a really good investigation, some decent evidence.

452
00:25:54,000 --> 00:25:55,000
Well, I'm all brother.

453
00:25:55,000 --> 00:25:56,000
Another good investigation, man.

454
00:25:56,000 --> 00:25:57,000
Absolutely.

455
00:25:57,000 --> 00:25:59,000
I'll have to get Joey Chin back on another one.

456
00:26:07,000 --> 00:26:11,000
So this old jail sounds really interesting on this area, man.

457
00:26:11,000 --> 00:26:15,000
Yeah, I can't wait to see, you know, what a jail looks like in a different country.

458
00:26:15,000 --> 00:26:16,000
Jada Chris.

459
00:26:16,000 --> 00:26:18,000
Hey, what's some of the activities being claimed over here at this place?

460
00:26:18,000 --> 00:26:20,000
People have heard heavy footsteps behind them.

461
00:26:20,000 --> 00:26:23,000
They've heard a woman scream from the halls.

462
00:26:23,000 --> 00:26:30,000
And they believe it goes back to when a woman was actually attacked and murdered in the jail by some male inmates.

463
00:26:30,000 --> 00:26:31,000
Holy cow.

464
00:26:31,000 --> 00:26:33,000
Definitely sounds like it's active there.

465
00:26:33,000 --> 00:26:35,000
Hey, Chris, is this still a working prison, a working jail?

466
00:26:35,000 --> 00:26:40,000
It's shut down in 2002, and then a couple years later it was opened as a museum.

467
00:26:40,000 --> 00:26:42,000
All right, guys, it looks like we got our work cut out for us.

468
00:26:42,000 --> 00:26:45,000
Let's definitely get over there and find out what's going on for them.

469
00:26:45,000 --> 00:26:47,000
Sounds good, guys. See you there.

470
00:26:47,000 --> 00:26:48,000
Sounds good.

471
00:26:48,000 --> 00:26:49,000
This is a place, right?

472
00:26:49,000 --> 00:26:50,000
This is it.

473
00:26:50,000 --> 00:26:51,000
When was this built?

474
00:26:51,000 --> 00:26:52,000
It looks so old.

475
00:26:52,000 --> 00:26:53,000
1833.

476
00:26:53,000 --> 00:26:54,000
Wow.

477
00:27:02,000 --> 00:27:03,000
Hi.

478
00:27:03,000 --> 00:27:04,000
Hi.

479
00:27:04,000 --> 00:27:05,000
Hi, Jason.

480
00:27:05,000 --> 00:27:06,000
Hi, Barb.

481
00:27:06,000 --> 00:27:07,000
It's a pleasure to meet you.

482
00:27:07,000 --> 00:27:08,000
Hi, Barb.

483
00:27:08,000 --> 00:27:09,000
Great.

484
00:27:09,000 --> 00:27:10,000
Nice to meet you.

485
00:27:10,000 --> 00:27:11,000
Nice to meet you.

486
00:27:11,000 --> 00:27:15,000
We feel really special that the TAPS team has come to Canada and to our little jail in Cornwall.

487
00:27:15,000 --> 00:27:20,000
These are the professional guys, and we're really anxious to find out what they find out about our jail.

488
00:27:20,000 --> 00:27:21,000
Beautiful place.

489
00:27:21,000 --> 00:27:22,000
Isn't it gorgeous?

490
00:27:22,000 --> 00:27:23,000
Beautiful jail.

491
00:27:23,000 --> 00:27:24,000
What's some of the history here?

492
00:27:24,000 --> 00:27:27,000
The jail was opened in 1834 and it closed in 2002.

493
00:27:27,000 --> 00:27:30,000
So it's one of the oldest running jails in Canada.

494
00:27:30,000 --> 00:27:35,000
In the 1990s to 2002 when it closed, there were actually 100 inmates a night in here.

495
00:27:35,000 --> 00:27:36,000
So they slept them anywhere.

496
00:27:36,000 --> 00:27:38,000
There was a room that they could lock them up.

497
00:27:38,000 --> 00:27:40,000
How many people can this jail hold?

498
00:27:40,000 --> 00:27:41,000
33.

499
00:27:41,000 --> 00:27:43,000
Oh, so yeah, that's three times its capacity.

500
00:27:43,000 --> 00:27:44,000
Yeah.

501
00:27:44,000 --> 00:27:47,000
All right, so we hear there's also a lot of paranormal activity that goes on.

502
00:27:47,000 --> 00:27:50,000
Yes, there are some things that have happened.

503
00:27:50,000 --> 00:27:52,000
We can't explain them.

504
00:27:52,000 --> 00:27:53,000
All right.

505
00:27:53,000 --> 00:27:54,000
And we'd like some explanations.

506
00:27:54,000 --> 00:27:55,000
Do you want to show us those locations?

507
00:27:55,000 --> 00:27:56,000
Certainly.

508
00:27:56,000 --> 00:27:57,000
Let's start by the basement.

509
00:27:57,000 --> 00:27:58,000
After you.

510
00:27:59,000 --> 00:28:01,000
So what goes on here?

511
00:28:01,000 --> 00:28:02,000
This is solitary confinement.

512
00:28:02,000 --> 00:28:06,000
This is where a prisoner was kept the night before he was hung.

513
00:28:06,000 --> 00:28:07,000
Oh, all right.

514
00:28:07,000 --> 00:28:08,000
So yeah.

515
00:28:08,000 --> 00:28:09,000
It wasn't a happy place.

516
00:28:09,000 --> 00:28:10,000
It wasn't a happy place.

517
00:28:10,000 --> 00:28:14,000
It wasn't like you see on TV where they show them getting the nice suit of clothes in the last meal.

518
00:28:14,000 --> 00:28:16,000
These guys didn't get anything like that.

519
00:28:16,000 --> 00:28:18,000
They were shoved in there and that was it.

520
00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:19,000
They didn't even get a window on their door.

521
00:28:19,000 --> 00:28:20,000
No.

522
00:28:20,000 --> 00:28:27,000
People that have come to the jail have said that they've seen the shadow of a big man walking around down here.

523
00:28:27,000 --> 00:28:30,000
Is he seen in there or out here?

524
00:28:30,000 --> 00:28:31,000
Out here in this area.

525
00:28:31,000 --> 00:28:32,000
I don't go in there.

526
00:28:32,000 --> 00:28:35,000
It has a really...

527
00:28:35,000 --> 00:28:37,000
So just oppressive feelings in there.

528
00:28:37,000 --> 00:28:38,000
Yeah.

529
00:28:38,000 --> 00:28:42,000
Sometimes you'll be walking through the jail at closing and you'll hear footsteps behind you

530
00:28:42,000 --> 00:28:46,000
and you'll turn around and look and there's nothing there and you keep walking and you'll hear it again.

531
00:28:46,000 --> 00:28:52,000
You turn around again and you just keep walking and then you walk a little bit faster as you try to close up in a hurry.

532
00:28:52,000 --> 00:28:53,000
All right.

533
00:28:53,000 --> 00:28:54,000
So where are we now?

534
00:28:54,000 --> 00:28:55,000
We're in the hallway.

535
00:28:55,000 --> 00:29:00,000
Three cell blocks, one over there, one down that hallway and then this hallway that takes you into the new addition.

536
00:29:00,000 --> 00:29:08,000
Down this hallway is where I've been on a tour with some people and the lady beside me heard a woman screaming

537
00:29:08,000 --> 00:29:11,000
and she grabbed my arm really hard and said, did you hear that?

538
00:29:11,000 --> 00:29:13,000
And I said, no.

539
00:29:13,000 --> 00:29:17,000
And she said there's a woman who just screamed and she's in a lot of pain and agony.

540
00:29:17,000 --> 00:29:19,000
When we did the research with... there was a woman.

541
00:29:19,000 --> 00:29:24,000
She was raped and murdered here in the hallway by the inmates while the guards watched.

542
00:29:25,000 --> 00:29:27,000
This is a general population.

543
00:29:27,000 --> 00:29:29,000
They're a lot bigger than American cells.

544
00:29:29,000 --> 00:29:30,000
So what goes on in this area?

545
00:29:30,000 --> 00:29:35,000
When I'm sitting at the front and all of a sudden these doors just start slamming one right after another

546
00:29:35,000 --> 00:29:38,000
and there's nobody up here when we come and check.

547
00:29:38,000 --> 00:29:40,000
It kind of startles you.

548
00:29:40,000 --> 00:29:42,000
Do you know what it means, all open or all closed?

549
00:29:42,000 --> 00:29:43,000
They're usually closed.

550
00:29:43,000 --> 00:29:50,000
I did have a student a few years ago who came up here to close up for me and said she saw a face in here

551
00:29:50,000 --> 00:29:52,000
and it scared her enough that she ran out.

552
00:29:52,000 --> 00:29:56,000
I came back and finished closing up for her and there was nothing here.

553
00:29:56,000 --> 00:30:01,000
But it was right at this cell block here and there was a young man who committed suicide in here.

554
00:30:01,000 --> 00:30:03,000
Alright, is that it?

555
00:30:03,000 --> 00:30:04,000
That's about it.

556
00:30:04,000 --> 00:30:07,000
Alright, what we're going to do from here is go talk to the rest of the crew,

557
00:30:07,000 --> 00:30:09,000
start setting up the equipment, see what we can catch for you.

558
00:30:09,000 --> 00:30:10,000
Good.

559
00:30:10,000 --> 00:30:11,000
Alright, thank you very much.

560
00:30:11,000 --> 00:30:12,000
Thank you.

561
00:30:12,000 --> 00:30:13,000
I'll have to you.

562
00:30:13,000 --> 00:30:18,000
Barbara just finished giving us the tour of the Cornwall Jail and surprisingly for a small jail,

563
00:30:18,000 --> 00:30:20,000
it's got a pretty morbid history.

564
00:30:23,000 --> 00:30:27,000
This is General Population, Dave.

565
00:30:27,000 --> 00:30:28,000
Yeah.

566
00:30:28,000 --> 00:30:31,000
This is the cell over here that claims stuff happens.

567
00:30:31,000 --> 00:30:32,000
This is the one.

568
00:30:32,000 --> 00:30:35,000
Hello.

569
00:30:35,000 --> 00:30:40,000
Does this sound familiar to you?

570
00:30:40,000 --> 00:30:42,000
Locked in.

571
00:30:42,000 --> 00:30:47,000
Let me go into this cell and see if it feels any different.

572
00:30:47,000 --> 00:30:54,000
Or if I get some sort of different feeling or, you know, maybe something will interact with me in here instead of out there.

573
00:30:54,000 --> 00:30:55,000
Yeah.

574
00:30:55,000 --> 00:30:58,000
We're in your cell if you want to come in here.

575
00:30:58,000 --> 00:31:07,000
I know that it may not be something that you really think you'd want to do, but this jail is not working anymore.

576
00:31:07,000 --> 00:31:09,000
You can't get locked in.

577
00:31:09,000 --> 00:31:10,000
We're not prisoners.

578
00:31:10,000 --> 00:31:12,000
We just come and go as we please.

579
00:31:12,000 --> 00:31:13,000
Is that true?

580
00:31:13,000 --> 00:31:14,000
Can you do that?

581
00:31:14,000 --> 00:31:17,000
Can you come and go as you please?

582
00:31:21,000 --> 00:31:24,000
We tried, of course, to talk to whatever may be here with us.

583
00:31:24,000 --> 00:31:27,000
We tried to put ourselves in their shoes.

584
00:31:27,000 --> 00:31:28,000
You know, hey, we're here.

585
00:31:28,000 --> 00:31:31,000
You know, we're in the same prison cell you were once in.

586
00:31:31,000 --> 00:31:32,000
We feel for you.

587
00:31:32,000 --> 00:31:34,000
We tried to get you out of here.

588
00:31:34,000 --> 00:31:37,000
We tried to put ourselves in their shoes.

589
00:31:37,000 --> 00:31:38,000
You know, hey, we're here.

590
00:31:38,000 --> 00:31:41,000
You know, we're in the same prison cell you were once in.

591
00:31:41,000 --> 00:31:42,000
We feel for you.

592
00:31:42,000 --> 00:31:43,000
We tried a lot of different things.

593
00:31:43,000 --> 00:31:46,000
We do have a camera there all night long.

594
00:31:46,000 --> 00:31:52,000
So if something does happen, whether it was when we were there or not there, we'll still get it on our DVR.

595
00:31:54,000 --> 00:31:57,000
All right, so this is solitary confinement.

596
00:31:58,000 --> 00:32:04,000
So in here, this is where they actually hold people the night before they're going to get executed.

597
00:32:04,000 --> 00:32:05,000
Oh, my goodness.

598
00:32:05,000 --> 00:32:10,000
Amy and I were investigating in a solitary confinement, and we're told that down here,

599
00:32:10,000 --> 00:32:14,000
people have seen what they think is a shadow passing through here.

600
00:32:14,000 --> 00:32:16,000
This is a crazy little basement.

601
00:32:16,000 --> 00:32:17,000
It is.

602
00:32:17,000 --> 00:32:18,000
I don't like it at all.

603
00:32:18,000 --> 00:32:20,000
I really feel uncomfortable down here.

604
00:32:20,000 --> 00:32:24,000
Honestly, the second I got down there, I thought I was going to be in here.

605
00:32:24,000 --> 00:32:28,000
Honestly, the second I got down there, I did not feel good.

606
00:32:28,000 --> 00:32:29,000
I felt anxious.

607
00:32:29,000 --> 00:32:31,000
I felt like my chest was tight.

608
00:32:31,000 --> 00:32:32,000
I wanted out.

609
00:32:32,000 --> 00:32:35,000
Didn't Jay Grant say something about copper pipe?

610
00:32:35,000 --> 00:32:37,000
Like it carries the MF?

611
00:32:37,000 --> 00:32:40,000
Yeah, I think it is a conductor.

612
00:32:40,000 --> 00:32:43,000
You got to check that out, especially if people are reporting and seeing something.

613
00:32:43,000 --> 00:32:44,000
Yeah, exactly.

614
00:32:44,000 --> 00:32:48,000
One of the things that we noticed down here walking around is if you look at the ceiling,

615
00:32:48,000 --> 00:32:53,000
there's a ton of wires and cables and just pipes running through.

616
00:32:53,000 --> 00:32:57,000
And we decided to check them out with our EMF detector.

617
00:32:57,000 --> 00:32:59,000
8.6, 9.5, 11.

618
00:32:59,000 --> 00:33:01,000
EMF stands for electromagnetic field.

619
00:33:01,000 --> 00:33:06,000
Now we use the EMF detectors to try to find high EMF readings in different areas.

620
00:33:06,000 --> 00:33:10,000
One theory is that spirit activity can manipulate the high EMFs.

621
00:33:10,000 --> 00:33:13,000
11.3, this is insane.

622
00:33:13,000 --> 00:33:16,000
I wonder why I'm feeling freaking creeped out.

623
00:33:16,000 --> 00:33:18,000
Yeah, I don't like it down here at all.

624
00:33:18,000 --> 00:33:22,000
Sure enough, through the roof, as far as the readings, it's right pretty much a head level.

625
00:33:22,000 --> 00:33:28,000
This is 50, 60, 62, 61.5.

626
00:33:28,000 --> 00:33:32,000
If somebody spent enough time down here, they could feel paranoid,

627
00:33:32,000 --> 00:33:35,000
that they could feel sick, nauseous, they could see things.

628
00:33:35,000 --> 00:33:37,000
Oh, hey, I'm here.

629
00:33:37,000 --> 00:33:39,000
Can anybody stand here?

630
00:33:39,000 --> 00:33:43,000
For me, I've never felt sick like that from EMF levels before.

631
00:33:43,000 --> 00:33:45,000
I wanted to run out of there.

632
00:33:45,000 --> 00:33:48,000
It was taking everything in me to just stand there with you.

633
00:33:48,000 --> 00:33:49,000
I was like, I can't do this anymore.

634
00:33:49,000 --> 00:33:50,000
I need to go.

635
00:33:50,000 --> 00:33:55,000
It hit me very quickly, and I was very glad to get out of that area.

636
00:33:59,000 --> 00:34:03,000
Jane Grant, Cornwall Jail, this is protective custody.

637
00:34:03,000 --> 00:34:08,000
I can't believe that a woman was raped here, and the guards just watched him do it.

638
00:34:08,000 --> 00:34:10,000
Rape and then murdered.

639
00:34:10,000 --> 00:34:13,000
What the heck? How can you be a guard and watch that happen?

640
00:34:13,000 --> 00:34:17,000
Do you think maybe the guys were just too crazy and the guards didn't want to get killed themselves?

641
00:34:17,000 --> 00:34:18,000
Could be that.

642
00:34:18,000 --> 00:34:23,000
Doesn't that mean the guards go to jail, right? Because they didn't try to stop it?

643
00:34:23,000 --> 00:34:27,000
We'll have to have Chris Williams see what the building's made out of.

644
00:34:37,000 --> 00:34:39,000
What do you do all day?

645
00:34:39,000 --> 00:34:43,000
The door closed. It feels like an old different world, though, with the door open.

646
00:34:43,000 --> 00:34:44,000
I know.

647
00:34:48,000 --> 00:34:49,000
Yeah.

648
00:34:49,000 --> 00:35:16,000
Jane, I said about investigating.

649
00:35:16,000 --> 00:35:20,000
On the main floor went to the protective custody area.

650
00:35:20,000 --> 00:35:24,000
You know, with the door closed, it feels like an old different world, though, with the door open.

651
00:35:24,000 --> 00:35:25,000
I know.

652
00:35:25,000 --> 00:35:27,000
Jane opened the cell door for me all the way.

653
00:35:27,000 --> 00:35:29,000
I got up and walked out, no problem.

654
00:35:29,000 --> 00:35:36,000
The red building on the main floor.

655
00:35:36,000 --> 00:35:38,000
The only thing you can do is...

656
00:35:46,000 --> 00:35:49,000
So that was a jail cell door that just closed by itself?

657
00:35:49,000 --> 00:35:53,000
Why did it? I don't know. We went back to the door, investigated it.

658
00:35:56,000 --> 00:35:58,000
It's all like you're done one off.

659
00:35:58,000 --> 00:36:03,000
If that door was open all the way, like I believe it was, there's no way it would have just closed on its own.

660
00:36:03,000 --> 00:36:06,000
So, kind of on the fence about that one.

661
00:36:08,000 --> 00:36:14,000
This was the area the guys are telling us about where the woman was raped and murdered.

662
00:36:14,000 --> 00:36:15,000
Jesus.

663
00:36:15,000 --> 00:36:23,000
Um, it happened to her by some male inmates, and I guess the guards just watched and let it happen.

664
00:36:23,000 --> 00:36:24,000
That's disgusting.

665
00:36:24,000 --> 00:36:27,000
It is disgusting, and it kind of scares me a little bit.

666
00:36:27,000 --> 00:36:30,000
But there's been a lot of activity in this hallway.

667
00:36:30,000 --> 00:36:34,000
People here have heard music. They've also heard footsteps.

668
00:36:36,000 --> 00:36:38,000
Hello? Is anybody here?

669
00:36:38,000 --> 00:36:44,000
We've heard you've been able to appear for people before. Can you do that for us?

670
00:36:46,000 --> 00:36:48,000
I said we just start running around.

671
00:36:49,000 --> 00:36:51,000
Come out for us. We can't stay much longer.

672
00:36:51,000 --> 00:36:53,000
You're gonna come out, and you're gonna come out now.

673
00:36:53,000 --> 00:36:55,000
I hate another one of those creepy cells.

674
00:36:55,000 --> 00:36:56,000
Oh.

675
00:36:56,000 --> 00:36:58,000
Solitary confinement.

676
00:36:58,000 --> 00:37:01,000
Oh my God! I can't believe it!

677
00:37:04,000 --> 00:37:06,000
I did not expect that crap!

678
00:37:06,000 --> 00:37:08,000
Oh my God!

679
00:37:08,000 --> 00:37:10,000
You scared me!

680
00:37:10,000 --> 00:37:19,000
I turned the corner, looked into one of the cells, and all I saw was this white face with just mean eyes staring back, and I lost it.

681
00:37:19,000 --> 00:37:23,000
I freaked out. I scared Amy out to death.

682
00:37:23,000 --> 00:37:25,000
I hate you!

683
00:37:25,000 --> 00:37:31,000
I've never freaked out like that on a case ever, and now that it's over with, I'm a little embarrassed about it.

684
00:37:31,000 --> 00:37:34,000
I'm seriously shaking right now.

685
00:37:34,000 --> 00:37:38,000
Hey guys. Yeah, I think we should wrap it. Thanks.

686
00:37:42,000 --> 00:37:46,000
There's one thing that's got me scratching my head tonight, and that was that jail cell door.

687
00:37:46,000 --> 00:37:52,000
It was open all the way. I know I walked out of it, and it wasn't until a few seconds later that it closed and closed with force.

688
00:37:52,000 --> 00:37:57,000
So, I don't know. Hopefully one of our cameras caught it, and we can figure out what happened.

689
00:38:09,000 --> 00:38:13,000
Tim and I are getting ready to review the evidence for the Cornwall jail.

690
00:38:13,000 --> 00:38:15,000
Some of the investigators claim to have some experiences.

691
00:38:15,000 --> 00:38:19,000
I know Jason and Grant claim to hear a few different things and had a door shut off.

692
00:38:19,000 --> 00:38:23,000
So, we're going to look for all of this stuff, as well as stuff that the jail thinks is happening.

693
00:38:23,000 --> 00:38:27,000
So, we have our work cut out for us. A lot of stuff to go over.

694
00:38:36,000 --> 00:38:41,000
Hey Dave. Take a listen to this for me real quick if you don't mind.

695
00:38:41,000 --> 00:38:47,000
This is Jason and Grant, and they're right outside of protective custody in that hallway.

696
00:38:47,000 --> 00:38:49,000
Yes. Take a listen.

697
00:38:54,000 --> 00:38:56,000
Oh, it's like a scream.

698
00:39:02,000 --> 00:39:05,000
How you been? Okay? Good. Good to see you guys again.

699
00:39:05,000 --> 00:39:09,000
All right, well, you know what we did? We came in, he gave us a tour of the location, showed us the hotspots.

700
00:39:09,000 --> 00:39:13,000
From there, we set up all of our equipment, and we started investigating it.

701
00:39:13,000 --> 00:39:18,000
One of our teams was down in the basement, you know that hallway outside of solitary confinement?

702
00:39:18,000 --> 00:39:22,000
They did realize that there was high EMF fields, which is electromagnetic field.

703
00:39:22,000 --> 00:39:24,000
And it's right at your head level.

704
00:39:24,000 --> 00:39:30,000
So, what happens with the high EMF field is it can make people feel paranoid, make you dizzy, nausea.

705
00:39:30,000 --> 00:39:33,000
And that can be misinterpreted as paranormal activity.

706
00:39:33,000 --> 00:39:37,000
Just that feeling, like the creeped out feeling, can be explained away by that.

707
00:39:37,000 --> 00:39:41,000
So, if people are down there and feeling creeped out, move them to another area and see if it gets better.

708
00:39:41,000 --> 00:39:46,000
Because one of our investigators, Amy Bruni, actually got very nauseous down there.

709
00:39:46,000 --> 00:39:51,000
She actually had to get out of there because that effect was so oppressive to her.

710
00:39:51,000 --> 00:39:54,000
But we do have some things we want to show you.

711
00:39:54,000 --> 00:39:58,000
The first thing is a video, but it's more the sound on the video.

712
00:39:58,000 --> 00:40:04,000
We had an experience in the protective custody area where we opened one of the jail cell doors.

713
00:40:04,000 --> 00:40:08,000
And I was sitting in the cell, Jay had closed it just to get an idea of what it would feel like.

714
00:40:08,000 --> 00:40:10,000
Open the cell door all the way up.

715
00:40:10,000 --> 00:40:14,000
I walked out and a few seconds after the door slam shut.

716
00:40:14,000 --> 00:40:22,000
So, we'll show you this video more so you can hear the sound and see if that's what you're hearing with the doors closing.

717
00:40:31,000 --> 00:40:33,000
Yeah, that's what we hear.

718
00:40:33,000 --> 00:40:37,000
Like I said, when I came out, Jay had opened the door and I sat in the cell for a little bit.

719
00:40:37,000 --> 00:40:40,000
And then got up and walked down, the door didn't move at all.

720
00:40:40,000 --> 00:40:44,000
I mean, I imagine if it was at that point where it would close, you know, I would have seen some movement when I came out.

721
00:40:44,000 --> 00:40:50,000
So, it's not an occurrence, is it truly paranormal? We don't know. It's really hard to say, but that's the noise you hear a lot.

722
00:40:50,000 --> 00:40:53,000
That's the noise we hear, and there's nobody in the jail when we're hearing it.

723
00:40:53,000 --> 00:40:59,000
I don't know, maybe after the tour, the doors are slowly closing and people opening and closing then. Who knows.

724
00:40:59,000 --> 00:41:03,000
Now, the next thing we have to show you is a piece of audio that was caught.

725
00:41:03,000 --> 00:41:07,000
It was actually caught in the hallway where the claims are that that lady was raped and killed.

726
00:41:07,000 --> 00:41:11,000
Now, I want you to listen for two things. Number one, the sound and what you think it may be.

727
00:41:11,000 --> 00:41:17,000
But also, look at it from the other side where is this a sound I've heard in the jail before? Try to identify it.

728
00:41:17,000 --> 00:41:18,000
Yep, sure.

729
00:41:25,000 --> 00:41:28,000
It does sound like a woman's voice. It's high pitched.

730
00:41:28,000 --> 00:41:33,000
It does. It almost sounds like a woman screaming something or really not sure of it.

731
00:41:33,000 --> 00:41:35,000
But is that a sound that you've heard in the past?

732
00:41:35,000 --> 00:41:36,000
No.

733
00:41:36,000 --> 00:41:41,000
Is that a sound that you could think of? Now, don't think voice. Think of anything in the jail that could make that sound.

734
00:41:41,000 --> 00:41:42,000
No.

735
00:41:42,000 --> 00:41:43,000
Because we didn't hear it at all that night.

736
00:41:43,000 --> 00:41:45,000
And nothing like that I've ever heard.

737
00:41:45,000 --> 00:41:46,000
One more time?

738
00:41:46,000 --> 00:41:47,000
Sure.

739
00:41:52,000 --> 00:41:57,000
So, here, and then again. So, there's something going on there.

740
00:41:57,000 --> 00:41:58,000
There's something there, yeah.

741
00:41:58,000 --> 00:42:02,000
We have no explanation for it. There were seagulls, but they sounded totally different.

742
00:42:02,000 --> 00:42:04,000
I have no idea what they could be.

743
00:42:04,000 --> 00:42:10,000
We sent Chris Williams out and she did some research and it came back that the building is mainly constructed of limestone.

744
00:42:10,000 --> 00:42:18,000
We've been dealing with this theory for the last 15, 20 years that high paranormal activity seems to happen within high limestone deposit areas,

745
00:42:18,000 --> 00:42:21,000
whether it's something that makes up the building or under the ground.

746
00:42:21,000 --> 00:42:24,000
But the conditions need to be right for that activity to happen.

747
00:42:24,000 --> 00:42:25,000
Oh, okay.

748
00:42:25,000 --> 00:42:30,000
You know, we did have two things that happened. We had the door closed and we caught that scream.

749
00:42:30,000 --> 00:42:33,000
And those are things that other people have experienced as well.

750
00:42:33,000 --> 00:42:35,000
Now, what caused those? We don't know yet.

751
00:42:35,000 --> 00:42:40,000
So, it's hard to say. It's paranormal, but I'd love to come back and give another shot.

752
00:42:40,000 --> 00:42:42,000
We'd need to come back before we come to a conclusion.

753
00:42:42,000 --> 00:42:45,000
Before I sit there and say, I believe the place to be haunted.

754
00:42:45,000 --> 00:42:46,000
Excellent. That would be great.

755
00:42:46,000 --> 00:42:48,000
Thank you very much for having us out.

756
00:42:48,000 --> 00:42:49,000
You're very welcome.

757
00:42:49,000 --> 00:42:50,000
Thank you very much.

758
00:42:50,000 --> 00:42:51,000
FDL.

759
00:42:52,000 --> 00:42:57,000
I'm just thrilled that they were able to experience some of the things that we experience on a daily basis.

760
00:42:57,000 --> 00:43:00,000
The cell door slamming, that's exactly what we hear.

761
00:43:00,000 --> 00:43:05,000
The fact that they heard it too is just another one of those unexplained things.

762
00:43:05,000 --> 00:43:12,000
It was just an all-round really great experience for us, and I hope it was for TAPS Group too.

763
00:43:12,000 --> 00:43:15,000
So, Marmar seemed a lot more excited than we were on the other.

764
00:43:15,000 --> 00:43:19,000
Well, I mean, she's been there so long. I'm sure that any kind of...

765
00:43:19,000 --> 00:43:20,000
Validation.

766
00:43:20,000 --> 00:43:25,000
Right, or just knowing someone else had a similar experience to what she had, it's got to mean a lot.

767
00:43:25,000 --> 00:43:31,000
Absolutely. I think if we came back and we spent some serious time here, we could come to a conclusion whether it's haunted or not haunted.

768
00:43:31,000 --> 00:43:35,000
Oh, yeah, definitely. It's just one of those situations where we hit it on.

769
00:43:35,000 --> 00:43:38,000
Probably it's the quietest night of the year. You never know.

770
00:43:38,000 --> 00:43:39,000
Yeah, good job.